{"id":2224,"date":"2012-05-26T13:32:11","date_gmt":"2012-05-26T12:32:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bassdu.mine.nu\/?p=2224"},"modified":"2012-08-01T20:10:22","modified_gmt":"2012-08-01T19:10:22","slug":"continuitatea-traco-daco-getilor-in-spatiul-carpato-dunareano-pontic-4","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bassdu.mine.bz\/?p=2224","title":{"rendered":"Continuitatea traco-daco-ge\u0163ilor \u00een spa\u0163iul carpato-dun\u0103reano-pontic (4)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\u00cen continuare o s\u0103 \u00eencerc s\u0103 r\u0103spund unor acuza\u0163ii de<strong> \u201ena\u0163ionalism fascistoid\u201d<\/strong>, primite frecvent de \u201edacomaniaci\u201d (cum ne cheam\u0103 \u201eistoricii lui pe\u015fte\u201d).<br \/>\nA\u015fa am fost acuzat \u015fi eu de diver\u015fi indivizi, printre care \u015fi <strong>prof. Ioan Coja<\/strong>, care v\u0103d \u00eens\u0103 cu pl\u0103cere, c\u0103 \u00een ultimul timp \u201e\u015fi-a schimbat opiniile\u201d.<br \/>\nEste adev\u0103rat c\u0103 acest personaj \u015fi-a schimbat des opiniile : dup\u0103 ce a fost secretar PCR pe Universitate, sprijinit de un evreu, a devenit brusc dup\u0103 1989 &#8230; \u201ena\u0163ionalist extremist\u201d, care considera<strong> \u201edacomaniacologia\u201d<\/strong> d\u0103un\u0103toare<strong> Interesului Na\u0163ional<\/strong>, consider\u00e2nd-o <strong>favorabil\u0103 minorit\u0103\u0163ii \u0163ig\u0103ne\u015fti<\/strong>, c\u0103reia \u00eei eram \u015fi eu \u00eencadrat \u00een acest context !?&#8230; ba chiar m-a f\u0103cut <strong>\u201en\u0103t\u0103r\u0103u\u201d<\/strong> pentru ceea ce fac !?<br \/>\nS\u0103 sper\u0103m c\u0103 ultima \u201eschimbare de macaz\u201d este \u015fi ultima.<br \/>\nAm scris toate astea, nu pentru a ataca pe cineva ce-mi este indiferent, ci pentru a m\u0103 delimita strict de un anume tip de na\u0163ionalism, \u015fi anume de cel&#8230; \u201efascistoid\u201d !<br \/>\nCeea ce nu pricep \u201eacuzatorii\u201d<strong> Mi\u015fc\u0103rii Dacia<\/strong>, este c\u0103 acest tip de \u201ena\u0163ionalism fascistoid\u201d este promovat de unii care se recheam\u0103 la &#8230; <strong>\u201elegiuni\u201d<\/strong>, \u00een vreme ce nou\u0103, numai acest cuv\u00e2nt<strong> ne ridic\u0103 p\u0103rul pe spinare<\/strong>, dar\u0103mite \u201eideologia\u201d !?<br \/>\nAceste <strong>\u201emi\u015fc\u0103ri anacronice\u201d<\/strong> produc mai multe daune dec\u00e2t beneficii prin manifest\u0103rile lor. Exemplul cel mai concludent este <strong>\u201echestiunea Basarabiei\u201d<\/strong>, a c\u0103rei rezolvare este \u00eent\u00e2rziat\u0103 de ace\u015fti adep\u0163i ai <strong>\u201esalutului roman\u201d<\/strong> !<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\"><strong>Vede\u0163i domnilor istorici de unde vine fascismul ? &#8230; de la Roma !<\/strong><\/span><br \/>\nTot de acolo, vine \u015fi \u201eromanizarea\u201d prin mijlocirea <strong>\u015ecolii Ardelene<\/strong>, de\u015fi pu\u0163ini au priceput c\u0103 a fost numai o \u201emi\u015fcare strategic\u0103\u201d, ce \u00een Poker se cheam\u0103<strong> \u201ecacialma\u201d<\/strong>, deoarece tot <strong>Petru Maior<\/strong> mai scria \u015fi c\u0103 :<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><em><strong>\u201eaceaia iaste adeverit, precum vazum deasupra, ca nu limba latineasca cea proasta s-au facut din limba latineasca cea corecta ci ceasta din ceaia. De aciia, macar ca ne-am deprins a zice ca limba romineasca e fiica limbei latinesti, adeca ceii corecte, totusi, de vom vrea a grai oblu, limba romineasca e mama limbei ceii latinesti.\u201d (Petru Maior, scrieri, vol 1, pag. 311, ed. Minerva, bucuresti, 1976).<\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&#8230; \u015fi tot din Ardeal era \u015fi distinsul<strong> NICOLAE DENSU\u015eIANU<\/strong> autorul memorabilei lucr\u0103ri <strong>DACIA PREISTORIC\u0102<\/strong>.<br \/>\nEste adev\u0103rat c\u0103 \u201edacomaniacii\u201d mai fac \u015fi \u201eexcese\u201d, mai ales cei ce \u00een\u0163eleg din diverse materiale c\u0103 am fi o<strong> \u201eras\u0103 superioar\u0103\u201d<\/strong>.<br \/>\nEu am explicat p\u00e2n\u0103 aici, c\u0103 nu se pune problema \u00een acest fel, ba chiar am afirmat c\u0103 \u201eam r\u0103mas ca na\u0163ie \u00een urma altora\u201d, dac\u0103 ne referim la <em><strong>\u201evalorile actual recunoscute ale conceptului de civiliza\u0163ie\u201d<\/strong><\/em> ! C\u0103 aceste \u201evalori\u201d nu le recunosc ca atare, e alt\u0103 chestiune \u015fi de aceea am proiectat o <strong>NOU\u0102 PARADIGM\u0102<\/strong>, care s\u0103 aib\u0103 la baz\u0103&#8230;<strong> alte Valori<\/strong>, care am descoperit cu pl\u0103cere, c\u0103 erau impostate deja \u00een trecut: <span style=\"color: #800000;\"><em>pacifism, ospitalitate (p\u00e2ine \u015fi sare), simplitate, solidaritate, simbioz\u0103 cu mediul \u00eenconjur\u0103tor, f\u0103r\u0103 sclavi, f\u0103r\u0103 \u201echestii futile\u201d, etc.<\/em><\/span><br \/>\nEu chiar \u201em-am \u00eempins\u201d p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00eentr-acolo, c\u0103 am definit rom\u00e2nii ca <strong>\u201eciobani primordiali\u201d<\/strong>, ad\u0103ug\u00e2nd un detaliu justificat dup\u0103 p\u0103rerea mea : <strong>\u201eini\u0163ia\u0163i\u201d<\/strong>. \u015ei asta deoarece dacii se pare c\u0103 \u015ftiau <strong>\u201emersul stelelor\u201d<\/strong> \u015fi se \u00eenchinau <strong>Soarelui<\/strong>, cu mult timp \u00eenainte ca al\u0163i <strong>\u201eciviliza\u0163i\u201d<\/strong> s\u0103 ard\u0103 pe rug pe unul care sus\u0163inea centralitatea acestuia \u00een sistemul nostru planetar.<br \/>\nC\u0103 suntem \u201eciobani primordiali\u201d e lucru sigur, deoarece caprele nu au fost domesticite pe Tigru \u015fi Eufrat \u015fi cu at\u00e2t mai pu\u0163in pe Gange, Fluviul Galben, sau cine \u015ftie ce pustie, ci \u00een lan\u0163ul muntos european \u015fi pentru \u00eenceput, \u00een \u201ecetatea carpato-dun\u0103reano-pontic\u0103\u201d, singura <span style=\"color: #000080;\"><strong>SURS\u0102 MAJOR\u0102 DE SARE GEM\u0102<\/strong><\/span>, udat\u0103 de <span style=\"color: #000080;\"><strong>BAZINUL HIDROLOGIC<\/strong><\/span> cel mai bogat, acoperit aproape \u00een totalitate de <span style=\"color: #000080;\"><strong>p\u0103duri<\/strong><\/span> \u015fi cu zone ample prealpine \u015fi de \u015fes favorabile <span style=\"color: #000080;\"><strong>TRANSHUMAN\u0162EI<\/strong><\/span>. Drept urmare, str\u0103rom\u00e2nii au produs <span style=\"color: #003300;\"><strong>\u201eprima mare revolu\u0163ie socio-economic\u0103\u201d<\/strong><\/span>, trec\u00e2nd de la stadiul de culeg\u0103tori\/agricultori \u015fi v\u00e2n\u0103tori, la acela de \u201ezootehni\u015fti\u201d, asigur\u00e2ndu-\u015fi nu numai o hran\u0103 substan\u0163ial\u0103, ci \u015fi \u00eembr\u0103c\u0103mintea, \u00eentr-o societate <strong><span style=\"color: #800000;\">AUTOSUFICIENT\u0102<\/span><\/strong> ce nu avea nevoie de<span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong> SCLAVI.<\/strong><\/span><br \/>\nSuntem singurul popor ce \u00eenc\u0103 mai poart\u0103 c\u0103ciuli de blan\u0103 de oaie \u015fi care mai \u201etoarce fuiorul\u201d !&#8230; iar \u201eam r\u0103mas \u00een urma civiliza\u0163iei\u201d, dar eu sper din inim\u0103, s\u0103 renun\u0163\u0103m la <span style=\"color: #000080;\"><strong>\u201eobiectele din petrol\u201d<\/strong><\/span> \u015fi \u201es\u0103 ne \u00eentoarcem \u00een timp\u201d \u015fi \u00een acest domeniu !<br \/>\nBa eu am ipotizat chiar, c\u0103 <span style=\"color: #000080;\"><strong>PILEUSUL DACIC<\/strong><\/span> are tot aspectul <span style=\"color: #000080;\">\u201e\u00eenveli\u015fului br\u00e2nzei de burduf\u201d<\/span>, ceea ce indic\u0103 provenien\u0163a dintr-un organ intern de ovin\u0103. A\u015fa s-ar explica <span style=\"color: #000080;\">\u201eelasticitatea\/mularea, lipsa cus\u0103turilor \u015fi fine\u0163ea\/sub\u0163irimea\u201d<\/span> pileusurilor ce acoper\u0103 capetele diver\u015filor tarabostes sculpta\u0163i, ce se g\u0103sesc \u00een toate marile muzee ale lumii, provenite pare-se din <span style=\"color: #000080;\"><strong>Forul Imperial al lui Traian<\/strong><\/span>. Nu exclud totu\u015fi nici ipoteza unei piei \u201edezbl\u0103nite\u201d, rezultate din sacrificarea mieilor\/iezilor, tratat\u0103 dup\u0103 proceduri uitate azi, \u00een urma c\u0103rora se ob\u0163inea \u015fi culoarea <span style=\"color: #800000;\">RO\u015eIE<\/span>. Iat\u0103 un subiect de cercetare pentru \u201eistoricii cu patalama\u201d, de\u015fi se pare c\u0103 nu-i intereseaz\u0103 acest detaliu, cum nu-i intereseaz\u0103 nici <span style=\"color: #800000;\">OPINCILE<\/span> de mare fine\u0163e (de mare prestigiu printre &#8230; etruscii \u201epre-indo-europeni\u201d) \u015fi nici <span style=\"color: #800000;\">VE\u015eMINTELE BRODATE<\/span> ale \u201ebarbarilor\u201d.<br \/>\nCeea ce m\u0103 mir\u0103 cel mai mult este \u201e\u00eend\u00e2rjirea istoricilor lui pe\u015fte\u201d \u00eempotriva <span style=\"color: #003300;\"><strong>DACOLOGIEI<\/strong><\/span>, \u00een vreme ce \u00eempotriva altor mistific\u0103ri tac precum&#8230; <strong><span style=\"color: #003300;\">pe\u015ftii<\/span><\/strong> !?<br \/>\nNu am auzit de nicio reac\u0163ie a acestora \u00een leg\u0103tur\u0103 cu ipoteza <span style=\"color: #000080;\"><strong>\u201eoriginii khazare a mo\u0163ilor\u201d<\/strong><\/span>.<br \/>\n<em>O s\u0103 r\u0103spund eu pe scurt<\/em> : khazarii \u201es-au mi\u015fcat\u201d prin spa\u0163iul carpato-dun\u0103reano-pontic al\u0103turi\/concomitent cu ungurii (\u00eencep\u00e2nd cu secolul al IX-lea d.C.), fiind de <span style=\"color: #000080;\">origini TURCICE converti\u0163i la MOZAISM<\/span>, care nu au deci nimic de-a face cu \u201epopula\u0163ia evreiasc\u0103 din Palestina\u201d, sau cu \u201ep\u0103rul blond \u015fi ochii alba\u015ftri\u201d ai mo\u0163ilor.<br \/>\nEste o mare t\u00e2mpenie s\u0103 se sus\u0163in\u0103 a\u015fa ceva, numai dac\u0103 ne g\u00e2ndim la<span style=\"color: #000080;\"> limb\u0103, religie, tradi\u0163ii, obiceiuri<\/span> \u015fi aversiunea multicentenar\u0103 a mo\u0163ilor\/mocanilor fa\u0163\u0103 de \u201eprietenii\/tovar\u0103\u015fii khazarilor\u201d !!!<\/p>\n<p>O alt\u0103 teorie des vehiculat\u0103 este aceea a <span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>\u201eprimordialit\u0103\u0163ii evreie\u015fti \u00een Dacia post-traian\u0103\u201d<\/strong><\/span> fa\u0163\u0103 de rom\u00e2ni !?<br \/>\nEste adev\u0103rat c\u0103 evreii au fost prezen\u0163i \u00eentr-o legiune roman\u0103 sta\u0163ionat\u0103 \u00een actuala Oltenia, tot a\u015fa cum e adev\u0103rat c\u0103 cohorte de daci au ap\u0103rat<span style=\"color: #800000;\"> Zidul lui Hadrian<\/span>\u00a0din actuala Sco\u0163ia, sau au fost semnala\u0163i \u00een Egipt \u015fi Iberia, dar niciunui \u201eurma\u015f\u201d al acestora nu i-a trecut prin minte s\u0103 sus\u0163in\u0103 c\u0103 au fost numai ei acolo, sau c\u0103 au fost majoritari !?!? <span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>Logic<\/strong><\/span> este ca ace\u015ftia s\u0103 fi p\u0103r\u0103sit un spa\u0163iu unde a fi fost legionar, devenise un motiv de \u201ecur\u0103\u0163enie etnic\u0103\u201d.<br \/>\nIstoricii no\u015ftri tac din nou ca &#8230; PE\u015eTELE !? &#8230; e drept c\u0103 unii sunt \u00eentr-adev\u0103r cu origini evreie\u015fti, sau cu alte origini ne-dacice, dar sunt de \u201eprovenien\u0163\u0103 mai recent\u0103\u201d \u015fi au neobr\u0103zarea <span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>\u201es\u0103 se bage unde nu le fierbe oala\u201d<\/strong><\/span> !&#8230; \u015fi pe urm\u0103 unii se scandalizeaz\u0103 c\u0103 sunt ur\u00e2\u0163i !? Eu personal nu suf\u0103r de aceast\u0103 \u201eboal\u0103\u201d, ci \u00eemi manifest numai&#8230; nedumerirea, fiind <span style=\"color: #000080;\"><strong>Mi\u015fcarea Dacia<\/strong><\/span> o promotoare a Bunului Sim\u0163.<br \/>\nO alt\u0103 ABERA\u0162IE ce nu este luat\u0103 \u00een considera\u0163ie de \u201eistoricii lui pe\u015fte\u201d, este <span style=\"color: #003300;\"><strong>CHESTIUNEA DIC\u0162IONARELOR ROM\u00c2NE\u015eTI<\/strong><\/span> care au fost \u00eentocmite de IGNORAN\u0162I \u015fi mai ales de c\u0103tre ALOGENI, \u00een urma c\u0103ut\u0103rilor \u00een Dic\u0163ionarele&#8230; altora !?<br \/>\nAceast\u0103 chestiune am tratat-o deja \u00een parte, dar o readuc \u00een discu\u0163ie, deoarece este at\u00e2t de evident\u0103 ABERA\u0162IA, c\u0103 m\u0103 \u00eentreb de ce nu este tratat\u0103 de istorici !? Domnilor, este vorba de Identitatea Na\u0163ional\u0103 a poporului nostru !!!<br \/>\nO alt\u0103 acuza\u0163ie a \u201eistoricilor lui pe\u015fte\u201d este aceea c\u0103<span style=\"color: #000080;\"><strong> REGIMUL COMUNIST a pus bazele \u201edacomaniacologiei\u201d<\/strong><\/span> \u00een scopuri propagandistice, de parc\u0103 <span style=\"color: #000080;\"><strong>Densu\u015fianu<\/strong><\/span> \u015fi to\u0163i promotorii dacismului ar fi fost agen\u0163i ai Securit\u0103\u0163ii !?<br \/>\nA\u015fa de \u201edacomaniaci\u201d erau comuni\u015ftii, c\u0103 <span style=\"color: #000080;\">au turtit <strong>COIFUL DE LA CO\u0162OFENE\u015eTI<\/strong><\/span> \u00een filmul <span style=\"color: #000080;\"><strong>Dacii<\/strong><\/span> !?&#8230; ca dovad\u0103 a priceperii \u201eistoricilor lui pe\u015fte\u201d cu studii la \u015etefan Gheorghiu, care \u00eenc\u0103 mai ocup\u0103 fotoliile <span style=\"color: #000080;\"><strong>Academiei<\/strong><\/span>. \u00cen alt\u0103 ordine de idei, dac\u0103 am ajuns s\u0103 condamn\u0103m comunismul, nu \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 TOT ce au f\u0103cut ei a fost de CONDAMNAT. S\u0103 ne amintim de INVAZIA CEHOSLOVACIEI, de EDUCA\u0162IA GRATIS \u015fi EGAL\u0102 pentru to\u0163i, de S\u0102N\u0102TATEA gratis \u015fi pentru to\u0163i,lipsa \u015fomajului, dreptul la un acoperi\u015f, etc&#8230; m\u0103car c\u0103 erau la nivel de PRINCIPII, aplicate R\u0102U !<\/p>\n<p>De cur\u00e2nd a cobor\u00e2t \u00een Arena Confrunt\u0103rii \u201edacomaniacilor\u201d d-na<span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong> Zoe Petre<\/strong><\/span>, cu un articol publicat (unde altfel ?) pe Historia. R\u0103spund \u201epe fug\u0103\u201d unor afirma\u0163ii ridicole ale domniei sale :<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">1. Zoe Petre : <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u201e\u201eMo\u015ftenirea\u201c geto-dac\u0103 a devenit pentru mul\u0163i egal\u0103 cu m\u00e2ndria de a fi rom\u00e2n. Exager\u0103rile voite din perioada Epocii de Aur \u015fi nu numai nu doar c\u0103 au prins r\u0103d\u0103cini ad\u00e2nci \u00een mentalul colectiv, dar au f\u0103cut ca \u00een concep\u0163ia comun\u0103 na\u0163ionalismul rom\u00e2nesc s\u0103 fie str\u00e2ns legat de o popula\u0163ie a c\u0103rei mo\u015ftenire o \u201ep\u0103str\u0103m\u201c, semnificativ diluat, \u00een ADN-ul nostru.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000080;\">R\u0102SPUNS : <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">a. Densu\u015fianu, Ha\u015fdeu, Eminescu, Blaga, etc. nu au tr\u0103it \u00een Epoca de Aur ca d-na Zoe.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">b. Cum justific\u0103 \u201eistorica lui pe\u015fte\u201d afirma\u0163ia urm\u0103toare, deoarece nu este o specialist\u0103 \u00een domeniul genetic : \u201eo popula\u0163ie (DACIC\u0102) a c\u0103rei mo\u015ftenire o \u201ep\u0103str\u0103m\u201c, semnificativ diluat, \u00een ADN-ul nostru.\u201d Adic\u0103 ne d\u0103m cu p\u0103rerea \u00een domenii \u00een care nu avem &#8230; \u201epatalama\u201d ???<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">2. Zoe Petre : <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u201eVreau s\u0103 spun c\u0103 niciunul dintre compatrio\u0163ii no\u015ftri de azi nu are un str\u0103-str\u0103bunic dac de care familia lui s\u0103-\u015fi aminteasc\u0103, cum nu are de altfel niciun str\u0103bunic roman cunoscut de bunicii lui; \u00een schimb, oricare dintre noi poate avea un str\u0103bunic pe care familia l-a \u0163inut minte, \u015fi care s\u0103 fi fost grec, ungur sau armean: eu am avut o str\u0103bunic\u0103 grecoaic\u0103 de la Tulcea \u015fi o bunic\u0103 austriac\u0103.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000080;\">R\u0102SPUNS :<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">FALS !!! &#8230; deoarece majoritatea nu au bunici alogeni, iar dac\u0103 \u0103sta e cazul d-nei Zoe, nu se poate generaliza o astfel de ABERA\u0162IE !<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">C\u0102S\u0102TORIILE MIXTE sunt \u015fi azi obiect de \u201eanatem\u0103\u201d \u015fi o invit pe d-na Zoe s\u0103 viziteze rom\u00e2nii din jurul Rom\u00e2niei pentru a pricepe c\u0103 am dreptate. Este adev\u0103rat c\u0103 PROPAGANDA \u201evecinilor\u201d, sus\u0163inut\u0103 puternic de mijloace media, devine un pericol real pentru Identitatea Na\u0163ional\u0103, dar suntem \u00eenc\u0103 \u201e\u00een timp util\u201d ca s\u0103 stop\u0103m evolu\u0163ia.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">3. Zoe Petre : <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u201escribo-scribere, verbul latin care deseneaz\u0103 actul de a nota \u00een scris \u2013 dar citim \u00een slavon\u0103 \u2013 de la verbul \u0447\u0438\u0442\u0430\u0442\u044c\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000080;\">R\u0102SPUNS :<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">Mai sunt \u015fi alte exemple \u00een primul r\u00e2nd \u201esut\u0103\/cento\u201d, care demonstreaz\u0103 delimitarea CENTUM-SATEM ca fiind artificial\u0103 \u015fi f\u0103r\u0103 sus\u0163inere. Este mult mai logic, indicativ al caracterului de \u201elimb\u0103 matc\u0103\/matrice\u201d a \u201elatinei prisca\u201d, numele sub care se define\u015fte LIMBA ANTERIOAR\u0102 apari\u0163iei, nu numai a limbii latine, ci a latinilor \u00een\u015fi\u015fi ! D-na \u201eistoric al lui pe\u015fte\u201d vorbe\u015fte de latin\u0103 de parc\u0103 ei au \u00eenceput primii a vorbi \u015fi a scrie, uit\u00e2nd c\u0103 LATINA este o F\u0102C\u0102TUR\u0102 ca \u015fi GREACA VECHE din care deriv\u0103, acestea fiind de fapt EVOLU\u0162II ALE UNEI LIMBI ORIGINARE\/MATC\u0102\/MATRICE (Noam Chomski), care nu au alterat FONDUL LINGVISTIC al popoarelor TEMPORAR SUBJUGATE, azi fiind declarate&#8230; LIMBI MOARTE. Reamintesc doamnei c\u0103 ultimul imperator roman de origine etrusc\u0103 a domnit la Roma \u00een sec. al 3-lea \u00ee.C. (Claudius), deci se presupune c\u0103 LIMBA LATIN\u0102 nu a ap\u0103rut din senin la Roma, ci a rezultat din LIMBA MATC\u0102 a popula\u0163iei italice \u00een care latinii din Lazio erau \u201eo m\u00e2n\u0103 de oameni\u201d, fa\u0163\u0103 de majoritatea etrusc\u0103, umbr\u0103, celtic\u0103, etc.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">Reamintesc de asemenea c\u0103 SLAVII sunt un popor migrator cu o cultur\u0103 originar\u0103 \u201einferioar\u0103\u201d \u015fi nu pot emite preten\u0163ii de \u201ecivilizatori\u201d, iar dpdv numeric au fost \u015fi sunt NESEMNIFICATIVI, pentru a putea determina \u201einfluen\u0163e lingvistice \u015fi identitarie\u201d \u00een spa\u0163iul carpato-dun\u0103reano-pontic: Ei nu aveau nici m\u0103car o scriere c\u00e2nd au ajuns aici, fiind \u201edota\u0163i\u201d cu a\u015fa ceva de c\u0103tre ni\u015fte c\u0103lug\u0103ri din Tesalonicul arm\u00e2nesc !\u00a0 \u00cen cazul lor, se poate vorbi despre o \u201edictatur\u0103\/asimilare lingvistic\u0103\u201d favorizat\u0103 de Biserica ortodox\u0103 de Constantinopol, deoarece dpdv genetic, \u201esensul asimil\u0103rii\u201d a fost&#8230; INVERS !\u00a0<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">Acela\u015fi ra\u0163ionament se poate face \u015fi \u00een leg\u0103tur\u0103 cu maghiarii, ce au avut \u201e\u00een spate\u201d sprijinul Vaticanului.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">Apropos de \u201ena\u0163ionalism extremist\u201d, aduc la cuno\u015ftin\u0163\u0103 c\u0103 nu exist\u0103 dovezi ale \u201eromaniz\u0103rii for\u0163ate\u201d a altor popoare, pe c\u00e2nd despre \u201eSLAVIZ\u0102RI FOR\u0162ATE, sau despre MAGHIARIZ\u0102RI FOR\u0162ATE, putem da exemple chiar \u015fi din zilele noastre !!! Cu toate astea, \u201erum\u00e2nul nu piere\u201d, ba din contr\u0103, deoarece FACTORUL NUMERIC \u00eei este net favorabil !!! C\u0103 slavona a fost folosit\u0103 \u00een Liturghii, e adev\u0103rat, dar asta nu \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 \u201eb\u0103\u015ftina\u015fii\u201d pricepeau sau \u00ee\u0163i \u00eensu\u015feau ceva. Putem afirma cu certitudine c\u0103 se scria cu litere \u201eslavone\u201d, dar \u00een&#8230; rom\u00e2ne\u015fte ! Este cam acela\u015fi lucru cu latina liturgic\u0103, pe care \u201epoporul nu o cuno\u015ftea \u015fi nu o \u00een\u0163elegea\u201d &#8230; ca dovad\u0103&#8230; a murit ca orice \u201ef\u0103c\u0103tur\u0103\u201d ! <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">4. Zoe Petre :<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u201e\u00cen fapt, a\u015fa cum sugereaz\u0103 \u015fi Katherine Verdery, era vorba de o lupt\u0103 pentru putere, \u00een care Institutul de Istoria PCR voia s\u0103-\u015fi subordoneze \u00eentreaga cercetare istoric\u0103 din Rom\u00e2nia.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000080;\">R\u0102SPUNS :<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">De c\u00e2nd trebuie s\u0103 ascult eu de o ALOGEN\u0102 \u015fi s\u0103 ignor un Densu\u015fianu, Eminescu, Maior, Ha\u015fdeu, etc ??? Cine e KATERINCA asta ???<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">Aceasta vorbe\u015fte despre o \u201eLUPT\u0102 PENTRU PUTERE\u201d &#8230; s\u0103 \u00een\u0163elegem c\u0103 acum au c\u00e2\u015ftigat ALOGENII ???<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">5. Zoe Petre : <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u201elipsa de legitimitate a ambelor calificative ale acestui stat (Dacia), care nu era nici centralizat, nici dacic\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000080;\">R\u0102SPUNS :<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">Reamintesc d-nei \u201eistoric al lui constantinescu&#8230;pardon PE\u015eTE\u201d, c\u0103 Burebista intervenea masiv \u00een politica Romei, c\u0103 romanii au pl\u0103tit tributuri Daciei. \u00centreb \u015fi eu a\u015fa ca prostul : \u201edac\u0103 nu era dacic, ce Dumnezeului era ???\u201d&#8230; cumva evreiesc, grecesc, austriac, maghiar, etc. ???<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>CONCLUZIE :<\/strong><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #003300;\">Multe a\u015f mai fi putut scrie dar sunt s\u0103tul de AROGAN\u0162A unora ce bagatelizeaz\u0103 interesul cresc\u00e2nd pentru \u201eAmbii regi (ce) fac \u015fi azi obiectul unor evoc\u0103ri fanatice \u00een diferite medii, de la emisiuni TV la publica\u0163ii diverse \u015fi zeci de pagini de internet\u201d&#8230;\u00een acela\u015fi timp, ace\u015ftia exalt\u0103 rolul unor REGI ALOGENI, al unor ISTORICI ALOGENI, al unor LINGVI\u015eTI ALOGENI, etc. Ce-ar fi s\u0103 \u201estea ei \u00een banca lor \u015fi s\u0103 ne lase pe noi s\u0103 ne scriem Istoria \u015fi Dic\u0163ionarele\u201d ???<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #003300;\">D-na Zoe Petre se declar\u0103 descendent\u0103 din greci \u015fi austrieci \u015fi \u00een aceast\u0103 postur\u0103, este invitat\u0103 \u201es\u0103 nu se bage unde nu-i fierbe oala\u201d !<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #003300;\">Dac\u0103 \u00eenainta\u015fii s\u0103i \u015fi d\u00e2nsa s-au l\u0103sat asimila\u0163i de rom\u00e2ni, fiind \u201eprimi\u0163i cu p\u00e2ine \u015fi cu sare\u201d (a se citi despre SARE \u015fi importan\u0163a sa), nu \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 trebuie s\u0103 scuipe \u00een farfuria din care au m\u00e2ncat &#8230; UN PIC DE BUN SIM\u0162, c\u0103 nu ne intereseaz\u0103 opiniile domniei sale despre \u201ede unde ne tragem noi rom\u00e2nii\u201d ! Deja are responsabilit\u0103\u0163i pentru actuala stare de lucruri din Rom\u00e2nia, fiind participant\u0103 activ\u0103 \u00een calitate de consilier preziden\u0163ial, la jefuirea Neamului !!!<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #003300;\">Atitudinea dumneaei, demonstreaz\u0103 un \u201eata\u015fament boln\u0103vicios\u201d la principiile GLOBALIZ\u0102RII, care este dup\u0103 p\u0103rerea noastr\u0103 o \u201emodalitate nou\u0103 de colonialism \u015fi dezna\u0163ionalizare\u201d. GLOBALIZAREA este cu mult mai condamnabil\u0103 dec\u00e2t&#8230; NA\u0162IONALISMUL !!!<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Apropos de<strong> Zoe Petre<\/strong>, iat\u0103 un comentariu al unui rom\u00e2n care a tr\u0103it o perioad\u0103 \u00een<span style=\"color: #000080;\"><strong> Sardinia<\/strong><\/span> \u015fi care confirm\u0103<span style=\"color: #000080;\"><strong> \u201eleg\u0103tura sarzilor cu protorom\u00e2nii\u201d<\/strong><\/span>, precum \u015fi <span style=\"color: #000080;\"><strong>\u201eatitudinea sceptic\u0103 a italienilor \u00een\u015fi\u015fi apropos de &#8230; ROMANIZARE\u201d<\/strong><\/span>, a\u015fa cum am constatat \u015fi eu din discu\u0163ii cu \u201eistorici cu patalama\u201d italieni (<em>vezi postarea despre CARSULAE<\/em>):<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000080;\">\u201ep\u0103rerea mea c\u0103 un r\u0103spuns lui Zoe Petre este doar o imens\u0103 pierdere de timp&#8230; referitor la pisic\u0103 (sunt specialist \u00een pisici!) \u00een Sardegna se spune pizet\u00f9 (\u00eentr-unul dintre dialectele lor, nu \u0219tiu \u00een care) spre deosebire de italienescul gatto pe care-l \u0219tim cu to\u021bii. iar chiogio\u021bii b\u0103tr\u00e2ni spun la furtuna pe mare Fortuna \u0219i nu pricepeau unii de la un post de radio italian ce leg\u0103tur\u0103 are dezastrul pe mare cu norocul! am urlat la ei c\u0103 \u0219i la noi se spune furtun\u0103, dar nu cred c\u0103 m-au auzit&#8230;\u201d<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">\u201eah, am uitat s\u0103 spun ce-i mai important: nici \u0103ia din sardegba \u0219i nici \u0103ia din Chioggia nu se consider\u0103 italieni, latini, \u0219i alte treburi din astea&#8230; \u00een condi\u021biile \u00een care ei ar trebui s\u0103 se considere mai romaniza\u021bi dec\u00e2t Zoe Petre, nu-i a\u0219a?\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Iat\u0103 cum un \u201ec\u0103p\u015funar\u201d mai iste\u0163 \u015fi mai \u201eumblat\u201d, poate pricepe mai bine trecutul nostru, dec\u00e2t un \u201eistoric al lui pe\u015fte\u201d care nu-\u015fi mi\u015fc\u0103 fundul, dec\u00e2t ca s\u0103 frecventeze simpozioane unde \u201ese bate apa-n piu\u0103\u201d (\u00een cel mai bun caz) !<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>Iat\u0103 \u00een continuare al\u0163i \u201ena\u0163ionali\u015fti\u201d din afara Rom\u00e2niei&#8230; poate cite\u015fte \u015fi afl\u0103 \u015fi d-na Zoe Petre :<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Sursa : \u00a0 http:\/\/www.angelfire.com\/tx5\/texasczech\/Valachs\/We%20are%20Valachs.htm<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000080;\"><strong>\u00a0Despre volohi- rom\u00e2nii din Tatra :<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000080;\"><strong>We Are Valachs!<\/strong><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">Translator: Joseph Bittersman<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">Editor: Leo Baca\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u201ebaci, br\u00e2nz\u0103, s\u0103la\u015f, s\u0103la\u015fnic, colib\u0103, br\u00e2nz\u0103, ritualuri str\u0103vechi, etc&#8230;. tot ce deriv\u0103 din activitatea oierilor e de origine rom\u00e2neasc\u0103, ci nu turceasc\u0103, albanez\u0103, sau slav\u0103 cum scriu Dic\u0163ionarele noastre ! (???)<\/span><br \/>\n&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">\u201eFurthermore, the Valachs maintained a greater degree of self determination. It was expressed by different judicial customs called Valachian Law. \u201d<\/span><br \/>\n&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">&#8220;Moravian mountain people around Vsetin, so called Valachs, a courageous people, after Frederick\u2019s (Czech King) defeat in 1620, refused to accept the Austrian yoke and for full three years managed to defend with arms in their hands their freedom.\u201d<\/span><br \/>\n&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">\u201e The real center of Valachian uprising was in the mountains, which protected them against arbitrariness of the enemy, like a mother protects her children.\u201d<\/span><br \/>\n&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">\u201eIn spite of this, the mountains were full of \u2018zbojniks\u2019, who, especially according to folk stories, took from the rich and gave to the poor\u201d&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">ZBOINICI-R\u0102ZBOINICI care \u201eluau de la boga\u0163i ca s\u0103 dea s\u0103racilor\u201d !&#8230; \u201emocanii\u201d au \u015ftiut dintotdeauna ce este \u201eomenia\u201d, deoarece ei aveau \u201eLEGEA VALAH\u0102\u201d ce le-o dicta !<\/span><br \/>\n&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\"><em>&#8230; \u00een acest document se face o singur\u0103 \u201econcesie\/omisiune\u201d, vorbindu-se de o \u201evenire a valahilor din \u0163\u0103rile rom\u00e2ne\u201d. Eu sunt convins c\u0103<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> (a\u015fa cum se specific\u0103 \u015fi \u00een text)<\/span>\u00a0 nimeni \u00een afar\u0103 de valahi nu se ocupa cu oieritul \u00een Carpa\u0163ii Vestici. Deci \u201evenirea lor\u201d trebuie fixat\u0103 cu multe sute, mii de ani \u00eenainte, \u015fi anume din timpurile c\u00e2nd a ap\u0103rut aceast\u0103 \u00eendeletnicire de CIOBAN. Este imposibil de sus\u0163inut c\u0103 p\u00e2n\u0103 la \u201evenirea valahilor\u201d nimeni nu se ocupa de oierit !!! &#8230; mai degrab\u0103, erau mai pu\u0163ini \u015fi mai pu\u0163in organiza\u0163i (\u00een lipsa \u201eagresiunilor externe\u201d),\u00a0 fapt ce determina \u201elipsa informa\u0163iilor despre ei\u201d.\u00a0 Astfel se explic\u0103 r\u0103sp\u00e2ndirea \u00een to\u0163i mun\u0163ii Europei a cre\u015fterii oilor&#8230; trebuia s\u0103 \u00eenceap\u0103 undeva, iar acest \u201eundeva\u201d este ACOLO UNDE ESTE SAREA ! OIERITUL care \u00eencepe cu domesticirea caprelor\/muflonilor, este PRIMA REVOLU\u0162IE SOCIO-ECONOMIC\u0102 MAJOR\u0102 din Istoria ultimelor 10 milenii, cu mult \u00eenaintea apari\u0163iei \u201eciviliza\u0163iilor urbane\u201d- \u201eciviliza\u0163iilor scrisului\u201d !!! LEGEA VALAH\u0102 este cea mai veche lege \u015fi nu s-a transmis pe cale scris\u0103, ci oral\u0103, iar noi o chem\u0103m azi LEGEA BUNULUI SIM\u0162, A LIBERT\u0102\u0162II \u00ceN ARMONIE CU NATURA \u00ceNCONJUR\u0102TOARE. \u00cen trecut, aceste legi se chemau LEGILE BELAGINE-LEGILE FRUMOASE.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>Un alt exemplu de \u201edacomaniaci\u201d\u00a0 de data asta \u00a0din Fran\u0163a :\u00a0<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Sursa : \u00a0http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.revuedesdeuxmondes.fr%2Fuser%2F&amp;h=2AQEW4e8EAQFjQbJVkDSR8GcQ7R1CWa1PxLX4Yy_-wyIUrQ<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><em>\u00a0\u201eDacii sau Ge\u0163ii pe care \u015ftiin\u0163a \u00eei \u00eencadreaz\u0103 \u00een neamul Tracilor, ocup\u0103 \u00eentr-adev\u0103r acest teritoriu din cele mai vechi timpuri\u201d<\/em><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\"><em> &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<\/em><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\"><em> \u201e&#8221;Les deux principautes de Moldavie et de Valachie son habitees par une population que l&#8217;on peut regarder comme parffaitment homogene,&#8230;&#8221;Moldaves et des Valaques son repandus dans la Hongrie orientale et remplissent la Transylvanie presque entiere, la Bucovine et la Bessarabie. Le Dnister, les Carpathes, la Theiss, le Danube et la mer Noire forment une frontiere naturelle autor de ces diverses provinces, partagees entre 3 grands empires, et ce vaste territoire semble etre ainsi dispose pour contenir une seule nation.&#8221; (La Moldo-Valaquie et le MOUVEMENT ROUMAIN &#8211; H.Desprez)\u201d<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Num\u00e9ro : Janvier\/F\u00e9vrier 1848 (Premi\u00e8re quinzaine) Voir tous les articles de ce num\u00e9ro <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\"> Auteur : H. DESPREZ<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\"> Sujet : LA MOLDE VALACHIE ET LE MOUVEMENT ROUMAIN<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000080;\"><strong>Iat\u0103 cum se ocup\u0103 al\u0163ii de Istoria noastr\u0103, \u00een vreme ce \u201eai no\u015ftii competen\u0163i cu mucii pe piept\u201d se \u00eenver\u015funeaz\u0103 \u00eempotriva \u201edacomaniacilor\u201d (observa\u0163i c\u0103 pun ghilimele !)<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00cen continuare o s\u0103 \u00eencerc s\u0103 r\u0103spund unor acuza\u0163ii de \u201ena\u0163ionalism fascistoid\u201d, primite frecvent de \u201edacomaniaci\u201d (cum ne cheam\u0103 \u201eistoricii lui pe\u015fte\u201d). A\u015fa am fost acuzat \u015fi eu de diver\u015fi indivizi, printre care \u015fi prof. Ioan Coja, care v\u0103d \u00eens\u0103 cu pl\u0103cere, c\u0103 \u00een ultimul timp \u201e\u015fi-a schimbat opiniile\u201d. 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