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One of the more thoughtful conspiracy theorists is a person who goes by the online pseudonym of JC LeSinge. He places many short movies on YouTube, discussing Nibiru, Reptilians, the Illuminati, the New World Order etc.

The debate shown below should prove illuminating to interested parties. You will observe that JC LeSinge uses a number of slippery and often ingenious arguments (in common with many CT experts). Judge for yourself whether his arguments are credible. (Note that he does not commit himself to any definite position, thus giving him scope to continually alter his case – another tactic of all sophisticated CT experts. Also, when he pleases, he is quite dismissive of certain aspects of the more outlandish conspiracy theorists – another common tactic to bolster the expert’s own credibility.)

A New Conspiracy Theory.

RECEIVING LOTS OF e-mails is a profoundly depressing experience. For every interesting message there are nine items of unbelievably irritating garbage. Here’s a message from someone calling himself “Adam Smith”.

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Hi,

I posted at your forum as ‘Ithink’. Your websites are very interesting but I was wondering why they are hosted at Menwith Hill when you (and those you support) are anti ‘Old World Order’?

I know the rumors about the Illuminati and Menwith Hill but things are often not that simple. I would appreciate a reply. Thanks.

I see you have a yahoo account, would you like a chat through Yahoo messenger? Btw, my name isn’t Adam.

OUR REPLY: We have no idea where our websites are hosted and nor could we care less. You’ve got a serious problem if you think that “hosting location” is more important than content. You conspiracy theorists are so mad that you make up new conspiracies as you’re going along. You’re actually trying to suggest that we are working for the CIA and are providing misinformation and disinformation. Well, here’s a plan for you. Why don’t you fuck off and then you won’t have to worry about our content? This world will never change while sad fucks are trying to establish where a website is hosted. Who cares?! If you think we’re deceiving you, go somewhere else and read something else. It’s THAT simple.

Are we clear?!

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“Adam” is a classic example of a conspiracy theorist. Sociologist David Riesman defined an “inside-dopester” as a social type whose goal was “never to be taken in by any person, cause or event.”

All conspiracy theorists are inside-dopesters. They have a pathological desire not to be fooled and that, of course, means they are the easiest people on earth to fool – as David Icke and other conspiracy theorist gurus prove every day with the deranged theories they peddle. No sane person could take the proposition of reptilian, shape-shifting Illuminati seriously, yet conspiracy theorists lap it up. They think they’ll be able to spot a reptilian a mile off! No slimy pandimensional lizard will ever be taking them by surprise!

Try to follow Adam’s thought processes. He stumbles across a website that intrigues him. So far, so good. Then he decides to start tracking the IP address and seeing if he can find out information about it. Is that NORMAL behaviour, or is a sign of incipient paranoid schizophrenia? Remember, no one asked this guy to come to our site. Who in their right mind would start trying to trace a site he has chanced upon? Only a conspiracy theorist thinks that way.

He says our site is hosted at Menwith Hill. This is a Royal Air Force station in the UK which provides communications and intelligence support services to the United Kingdom and the United States of America. According to Wikipedia: “The site contains an extensive satellite ground station and is a communications intercept and missile warning site and has been described as the largest electronic monitoring station in the world.”

So now we have a conspiracy theory – an Illuminati site apparently associated with a covert monitoring site of the Anglo-America secret services.

Now, for argument’s sake, let’s just say we were indeed working for the CIA and MI5. Would we be so fucking stupid as to provide a direct trail back to the CIA HQ in Langley, Virginia?

These conspiracy nutters actually believe that by using a few simple internet tools they can identify “black ops” groups who spend millions of dollars on internet security to ensure they can never be traced.

How stupid would you have to be to think you could have any chance at all of identifying CIA units if they didn’t want to be identified?

And this is the problem with inside-dopesters. They think their infantile IP-address look-up exercises allow them to reveal the secrets of the powers that be.

They must think that the world’s intelligence services are incredibly dumb, yet at the same time they’re always accusing the intelligence services of the most elaborate, sophisticated, impenetrable and diabolical conspiracies imaginable – like 9/11.

This is classic doublethink. If the intelligence services are good at what they do you will never know what they are doing. If they’re incompetent then who cares about them since they’re no threat and will be easily rumbled.

Conspiracy theorists simultaneously argue that the powers-that-be are fiendishly clever and yet the likes of David Icke can apparently see right through them with no trouble at all. Isn’t that a fatal contradiction? Why haven’t they bumped off this “genius” who sees so clearly what they are up to? It’s not as though he’s hard to find. He even uses his own name.

Here’s a message from the David Icke site: “In this incredible 4 hour presentation, author and truth-teller David Icke reveals how the human race got into the present global crisis and the keys to getting out. This no-holds-barred examination of the machinations underlying global events and the mechanisms of control used to keep us in fear and confusion, opens our eyes to the truth what is really happening behind the scenes of our reality. This awareness is a necessary step towards our ultimate liberation as a race, as a species, and as residents of Planet Earth – and includes a demolition of Barack Obama before he was even elected that has proved to be absolutely correct.” Well, it’s good to know that we’re all safe thanks to David Icke, a true hero of our times.

Yeah, right! We’re sick of these clowns who think they know something. They don’t know anything at all. They’re spinning pulp fiction, and the inside-dopesters think they’re learning real information when all they’re really learning is self-delusion. What’s for sure is that they’re putting lots of nice dosh and lolly in the pockets of their “gurus” such as Icke, Makow and Jones.

The truth is they’re out of the loop and they will always be out of the loop. Their worst nightmare has come true. They have no inside dope and they are clueless about what’s really going on.

To all those people who are obsessed with looking up IP addresses rather than trying to campaign against the Old World Order, don’t come near us. Think whatever you like about us. In fact, when you think of us, just picture huge, pan-dimensional, shape-shifting lizards that can become invisible at will and you’ll be pretty close to the mark, OK?!

NOW FUCK OFF. WE’RE TOTALLY SICK OF MESSAGES FROM LUNATICS.

We are simply staggered by the amount of mental illness there is in the world if 90% of the people who write to us are anything to judge by. It’s profoundly depressing reading the thoughts of scores of mad people every day.

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To anyone who’s actually interested in the truth, our website uses a cheap and nasty website production tool called “Mr Site”, and the site is hosted on their servers. We have no control over where they host their servers and nor are we interested in the subject – because we would be deranged inside-dopesters if we actually cared about such things.

The website software in our experience is, frankly, crap: unreliable, unstable, inconsistent when viewed from different browsers and bug-ridden. However, it has the advantage that it’s (mostly) easy to use and the content can be altered at any time by any of the three of us who operate the site. Its ease of use marginally outweighs its many problems.

We are a communication cell of the Illuminati. We’re not website designers. The Illuminati isn’t going to employ an enormous team of coders to create a glossy, whizzy website that reflects all of the shiny, corporate, capitalist values of the likes of Coca Cola. We are ANTICORPORATE, for Christ’s sake!!!

We have deliberately chosen a rough and ready, primitive look so that everyone can see how easy it is to get an enormous project off the ground for no more than a few dollars. No one can stop you. You don’t need corporate funding. Anyone can get anything off the ground extremely easily these days.

With any luck, the vast wealth of the corporates will become irrelevant and they will be swept away by inexpensive start-ups.

Our website is a reflection of our philosophy that the OWO’s gatekeepers are becoming increasingly irrelevant. Anyone or any group with ideas, creativity and something to say doesn’t need to go to banks and beg for money. You don’t need to hire expensive programmers, designers, advertisers, lawyers, managers, executives and public relations experts.

It sickens us that inside-dopesters would rather waste their time on utterly futile exercises of trying to trace our IP address rather than doing something constructive we their lives.

What have the inside-dopesters “proved” – that our site is hosted by “Mr Site” and we use their cheap software for non web-developers. Big Deal! It was never a mystery in the first place. So, does that mean we’re frauds, or that we’re working for the CIA or MI5? Have the inside-dopesters caught us bang to rights, just as they caught the Reptilians and the 9/11 inside-job team?

God save us from conspiracy theorists! They’re just the latest version of Abrahamists, prepared to believe in anything if it makes them feel good.
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Treachery:

AN ADMINISTRATOR OF THE MOVEMENT – “Sophia” – openly attacked the position of the Illuminati: “Agree with you. The stance A/C takes is not only naive and contrary to the whole point of scientific enquiry, the establishment of hard facts, it is also detrimental to ‘M’ by putting off many people. Only a fool believes the official conspiracy theory about the central event that has enabled TPTB to rain down a barrage of disgusting legislations upon us, start new wars that since have killed hundred thousand innocent civilians. Only a fool would talk all day about OWO tyranny and then reject the mountain of evidence, that could, if brought to light bring down the very people that are central in this ‘game’. But hey, why would we care, it’s not like they murdered and continue to murder people right?” –Sophia

Two members of this Illuminati cell are PhD scientists. (55% of the Illuminati are educated to PhD level, and two thirds of those are PhD scientists.) Speaking from that perspective, we find it astounding that closed-minded bigots can possibly imagine that their amateur-hour, non-science speculations constitute anything that resembles “scientific enquiry”. Conspiracy theorists don’t know anything about science.

That’s the whole problem. They think that wild, unsupported conjecture is “fact”. They have zero understanding of the scientific method. The only reason we are in a position to criticize science is that so many of us are from highly qualified scientific backgrounds.

We have contempt for the kind of scientifically illiterate people who watch YouTube propaganda videos and think they are “fact”. Every single point raised by the conspiracy theorists concerning 9/11 has been explicitly refuted or discredited. The “mountain of evidence” points in a single direction – that Muslim maniacs were responsible for 9/11 using hijacked planes with huge fuel loads that were slammed into buildings in such a way as to fatally damage the structural integrity. The only mystery about 9/11 is why so many non-scientists and non-engineers imagine that their uninformed opinions make them experts on subjects they have never studied and know nothing about.

If you’re clueless about relativity theory, quantum mechanics and M-theory, what makes you imagine you have one meaningful thing to say about the science of 9/11? Where are your qualifications? Where’s your MERIT?

The whole point of meritocracy is to place those who know what they’re talking about in positions of power. The whole point of nonmeritocracy is to make every clown imagine they have a valid opinion that ought to be respected. WRONG.

9/11 conspiracy theories represent amateurs thinking they know more than professionals, and it’s for exactly the same reason that the world has to endure Abrahamism. Billions of morons think that ancient books are superior to science, that “belief” beats facts.

Conspiracy theorists are believers too, and they convince themselves that anti-scientific junk is “proof”. They trot out a few controversialists from the scientific community to support their claims and they imagine that a maverick’s opinion counts for more than scientific consensus – because all the rest are somehow “in on it”.

While it’s certainly true that the scientific establishment can be wrong, there is not one scintilla of evidence to indicate that it got anything wrong regarding 9/11.

Why is that a decade after the most studied event in history, only conspiracy theorists think Muslims weren’t responsible for 9/11?

Don’t they realise they’ve become part of a religion that refuses to listen to the mountain of evidence proving them wrong? They’re like the Muslims who believe the Earth is flat because the Koran says so.

Being in a “dialogue” with a conspiracy theorist is as futile as trying to get any sense from a Muslim.

Facts are not at issue – they point to exactly where the blame rightly lies – only belief.

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In a thread on 9/11, “Phantom” said: “My view practically corresponds with the A/C site as I already had a similar opinion before ever finding A/C. I tend to see it from the Law of Necessity; where is the relevance to it in my life? To me, it has no relevance to debate idiotic things and detracts from my time to be spreading the 9/11 “truth” when I could be doing better things with my life and opinions.

1 pop video is approximately 3 minutes long. 300 million people watching it amounts to 900 million minutes altogether, which is 15 million accumulated hours. It takes 10,000 hours of practice to fully master some skill, and it takes about 60 minutes of intelligent social interaction between 2 or more people to birth a new perspective. “The more knowledge that you have, the more points of contact you have with the divine mind.” –Phantom

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That’s exactly the type of approach we want to endorse. Why are 9/11 conspiracy theorists wasting so much time on this subject? There’s no mileage in it at all. Everyone knows who carried out 9/11 – 19 Muslims in a martyrdom operation organised by Osama Bin Laden to strike back at the Great Satan America for supporting Zionist Israel and for having infidel army bases in Arab nations. What’s hard to understand? Anyone who rejects the facts is essentially claiming that there is no such phenomenon as Islamic Jihad. Why don’t they try doing some research on the subject? Then they will discover that thousands of Islamic terrorist operations have been carried out all over the world, killing tens of thousands of innocent people. 9/11 was the pinnacle of that campaign. It was a low-tech operation that took America by surprise.

Don’t forget that in 1941 America was practically on a war-footing with Imperial Japan and still managed to be taken totally by surprise at Pearl Harbor. The Japanese used the code TORA, TORA, TORA to signal that they had achieved total surprise. The 9/11 hijackers could just as well have said the same thing. Conspiracy theorists refuse to believe that America is capable of being surprised. Their belief in the infallibility of the authorities is something of a conundrum. If the authorities are so good, their alleged 9/11 inside job would have been flawless, leaving no smoke for the conspiracy theories to interpret as a fire. It’s always the same with the inside-dopesters. They think that everyone is fooled except them, and that makes them the biggest fools of all.

Using Phantom’s calculations, it’s easily possible that more than a TRILLION HOURS of analysis have been devoted to 9/11. Result? – the official version is undented. Look at Watergate. A couple of journalists brought down a President over a fairly trivial event. If an army of millions of conspiracy theorists can’t land a single serious punch on the official version of 9/11 it’s because there’s no target there.

Given what happened with Watergate when the most powerful man in the world was forced to resign over a cover-up, why would people in the White House in 2001 expect to get away with the most heinous act of treason of all time? Just one loose thread would cause the whole alleged conspiracy to unravel. Would YOU take that risk? If you would, you’d be insane. Why would ultra rich people having a great lifestyle risk their lives to engineer a pretext for war against Iraq by slaughtering their own citizens?

The official reason for the war against Iraq was to remove WMD – weapons of mass destruction. Yet no WMD were found. Would the 9/11 conspiracy theorists like to explain why the alleged 9/11 conspirators were so inept that they couldn’t even manage to plant a few WMD? The credibility and reputation of Bush and Blair were destroyed by the failure to find WMD in Iraq. How could such people have pulled off 9/11 if they couldn’t even rustle up a few planted biological and nuclear weapons to justify their war?

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The Old World Order are guilty of endless crimes against the people. No one needs to label them with crimes they didn’t commit when there are so many they DID commit. They have destroyed countless lives with their greed and selfishness. They have destroyed the potential of billions of people.

They only understand one language: power. Their power comes from money. If you want to destroy their power, you must follow the money and take it away from them, and stop them passing it on to their families.

100% inheritance tax is the only way to stop the OWO, yet most of the 9/11 conspiracy theorists would stand utterly opposed to such a tax. That’s the real tragedy, and shows how effectively the OWO have brainwashed the masses.

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The Movement, if it’s to be worthwhile, must attract people such as Pho’ and Phantom, and repel the sort of people who are full of bile and have nothing to contribute other than dredging up disproved conspiracy theories.

To beat the Old World Order, we need to assemble a group of people who are smarter, more creative, more dynamic, more disciplined and tougher.

People from unprivileged backgrounds who achieve PhDs are MUCH smarter than privileged preppies piling out of Harvard Business School with MBAs and golden tickets to million dollar salaries.

Look at where the “wonder workers” of Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia and Goldman Sachs have led the world – to the brink of economic meltdown. These “geniuses” have failed in every regard.

Why? Because their purpose wasn’t to create a healthy, stable economy, but to enrich themselves. All economic systems collapse for one reason only: the greed of those running the economy. If you want a rational, predictable economy you have to make it impossible for the greed gang to drive the economy over the cliff in search of higher returns for themselves.

We said the MBA geniuses got it wrong. Of course, that only means in relation to the rest of us. In terms of themselves, they got exactly what they set out to accomplish – enormous personal wealth. They aren’t the ones suffering while the economy goes into a death spiral.

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The Illuminati is a secret society for smart people. We’ll be blunt. We don’t like stupid people. We don’t want to be in their company. We don’t want to listen to their bizarre, uninformed theories. We don’t want to be around people contaminated with superstition, faith and irrationality. We don’t want to hear dumb conspiracy theories.

If we could get on a spaceship and leave the idiots and dunces behind, we would. We would love to colonize a New Earth in space and let the Abrahamists and conspiracy theorists ooze back into the primordial slime whence they came. We, on the other hand, will get on with the project to form the Community of Gods, the Society of the Divine. You can be sure no stupid people will be playing any role in its creation.

Unlike David Icke, we’re not running a business. We don’t need to court popularity and seek as many new recruits as possible so that we can flog our merchandise to them.

We don’t care about alienating people, or making enemies. If we come across as arrogant, so what? Many of us have climbed out of the gutter and achieved astonishing things in our respective fields of expertise. We overcame the odds. We had no silver spoons in our mouths. We had no networks of influential friends and family. We had no privileged education, no access to private tutors and the best schools and teachers.

We clawed our way up from nothing against overwhelming odds. We are determined people, highly confident in our own abilities. We trust each other implicitly. We don’t suffer fools gladly and we’re not trying to win any popularity contests. All we care about are truth, freedom, and maximising our human potential. We hate those who block our path. We hate everyone who doesn’t “get it”.

The Old World Order will be undone by the contradictions inherent in how they run the world. The gap between rich and poor keeps getting wider. Resentment towards the rich is growing at an enormous rate. One day soon, the whole Fools’ paradise of the rich will collapse. The people will take back what the rich stole from them. New leaders will be required for the New Age. Will you be one of them?

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Did you know that the Norwegian Christian Fundamentalist mass murderer had a vision of society that was even worse than that of the Muslims he hated so much? It’s surprising that he wasn’t a Muslim himself given that his views were so backward. He spelt out his “utopia” (Hell to everyone else) in his 1,500 page manifesto. He was certainly right that Islam must be stopped and certainly wrong that fascist Christian Fundamentalism was the “solution”. He quoted philosopher John Stuart Mill: “One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100,000 who have only interests.” We would express it rather differently: “One person who knows what he’s doing is equal to the force of a million who don’t.”

The Old World Order have triumphed over the world using a set of extremely primitive but astoundingly powerful tools. Their implementation of their techniques has become increasingly sophisticated, but at root they’re just variations of Pavlovian conditioning. The game is simple – to get the simple masses to absorb and internalise the values of the ruling elite.

The Illuminati reject everything the OWO stand for. We reject their wealth, their nepotism, their cronyism, their “family first” policy, their system of privilege, their use of money to buy advantages denied to others. We reject their morality, their Abrahamist religions of control, their claims to “divine right” to rule. We reject their freedumb and dumbocracy.

Our task is to strip bare the immoral basis of the ruling elite’s morality. Nietzsche wrote an astonishing book called The Genealogy of Morals where he analysed the evolutionary development of morals from earlier forms. Once morality is seen as something that evolves then its claims to absolute and eternal validity are overthrown.

Perhaps there was a time when it was right and sensible to keep the stupid masses under control by terrifying them out of their wits with what would happen if they disobeyed “God” while promising them the highest reward possible – Paradise – if they obeyed.

That time is over. Now is the time to attack stupidity and educate the people.

Elite groups can wield control only over submissive, stupid, fearful sheeple. To bring elites to an end, it is necessary to revalue all values, reprogram the people, remove the brainwashing to which they’ve been subjected and to implement systems that produce smart, free, capable, talented, ambitious, independent, autonomous individuals who can see right through any attempts to condition and manipulate them. This new version of humanity would never permit the rise of any privileged elite.

The idea of an elite is inextricably linked with that of God. All that any elite has to do is convince the superstitious masses that God appointed them and that to disobey them is to disobey God himself. The sheeple therefore think that the elite are the legitimate authority, the rightful rulers.

Imagine a Papal election where the College of Cardinals didn’t decide who would be Pope, but rather every Catholic in the world was given a vote. Can there be any doubt that “One Catholic One Vote” would result in the end of Catholicism within a single generation? All the mystique would dissolve. The “magic” would vanish. The Wizard of Oz would be totally exposed.

The last thing that any system of authority wants is the involvement of the masses. Imagine an American election where there were no official political parties and anyone could stand. Imagine Congress being full of ordinary men and women from all backgrounds who had managed to win the support of their peers.

Would Congress be recognisable? Absolutely anyone could be President rather than someone funded by Wall Street and in the pocket of lobbyists.

Wouldn’t that be REAL democracy? But of course that’s what the people must never have. They must always be given the illusion, never the reality.

Only suckers and sheeple play along. Forget 9/11. Campaign for a new political system that makes the Democrats and Republicans ILLEGAL. They’re as bad as each other. Let’s have hundreds of independent political parties. Let’s make it possible for an unrecognised genius without two cents to rub together to become President.

The world is ruled by fantasy, delusion, superstition, irrationality, faith, prejudice and privilege. Isn’t it time we started running it rationally, scientifically and fairly?
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9/11:

“America has been hit by Allah at its most vulnerable point, destroying, thank God, its most prestigious building.” –Osama bin Laden, 7 October 2001

Rather an odd thing for a Muslim to say if 9/11 was a Mossad/CIA operation.

15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudi Arabians espousing Wahhabism, the most virulent form of Islam that calls for Islamic domination of the world and the global imposition of Sharia Law, for absolute intolerance of heresy and apostasy, for the wholesale destruction of Israel, for women to be totally subordinate to men, for Islamic theocracy to replace democracy.

Mohammed Atta, the Egyptian psychopath who led the hijackers, stipulated in his will: “The person who will wash my body near my genitals must wear gloves on his hands so he won’t touch my genitals…I don’t want any women to go to my grave at all during my funeral or on any occasion thereafter.”

The Wahhabites particularly despised New York, with its Zionist powerbase in Wall Street, its large Jewish population, its sexually liberated women, its fondness for drink, drugs and partying. It was a perfect target.

The hijackers wanted to drive out the American infidels located in several military bases in Saudi Arabia. These infidels were defiling the sacred homeland of Islam, the holy ground where Mohammed himself once walked. They wanted to attack America for its constant support for Zionist Israel, regardless of the number of atrocities carried out by the Zionists against the Muslim Palestinians. They wanted to call, in the most dramatic fashion, for an Islamic Caliphate uniting all the Islamic nations. And they wanted to end the sanctions that had been imposed on Iraq for many years, leading to a humanitarian disaster that was harming children in particular.

Why don’t the “Truthers” think the Wahhabites were supremely motivated to strike against the Great Satan? It’s because they are absolutely ignorant of Wahhabism and have made no attempt at all to study it. Know thy enemy! The Truthers haven’t the vaguest idea who the enemy is.

Here’s the “logic” of the Truthers. The elite want to impose drastic controls on the people (true). A major terrorist incident would give them the pretext (true). Therefore, they conclude, the elite engineered the terrorist incident themselves. They seem entirely oblivious to the fact that many people all across the world hate America and wish it serious harm. They think, perversely, that only Americans are motivated to attack America (!). They also think that no one other than the CIA, Mossad and U.S. Special Forces are capable of pulling off a terrorist incident. They think that 9/11 was some extremely sophisticated operation that a bunch of “rag heads” could never have accomplished.

In fact, 9/11 was about as crude as you could get. Nineteen Muslims used box cutters and fake bombs to hijack four planes and terrify their passengers (none of whom would have expected to die since hijackings had never before resulted in suicide operations) and then crashed them into buildings not long after take-off. There’s nothing difficult to grasp. The only thing cruder would have been something along the lines of the previous Islamic terrorist attack on the Twin Towers in 1993 – when they drove a truck bomb packed with explosives into the public parking garage beneath the World Trade Centre. Their intention was that the North Tower’s foundations would be so weakened by the massive explosion that the tower would topple over and hit the South Tower, bringing both towers down and killing thousands. “If at first you don’t succeed, try and try again!”

Why can’t people accept the blindingly obvious facts? Was 1993 a dry run by Mossad and the CIA? Surely the Truthers must offer a full explanation of 1993 as an inside job if we are to conclude that 9/11 was an inside job too. After all, it would be extremely bizarre to conclude that 1993 was carried out by Muslim maniacs but 9/11 wasn’t. If the Muslims did it once, they could certainly do it again, and do it better with a more effective plan.

Sharia Law – which advocates the stoning of adulterers, amputations of limbs for theft, the death penalty for homosexuality and apostasy – is supported by around 80% of Muslims. These people should not be regarded as gentle, compassionate, forgiving people. They are intolerant savages and anyone who has ever read the Koran knows that only the Torah exceeds it in terms of brutality and terror. Why would anyone think these people couldn’t be responsible for 9/11?

Most Muslims want Islam to be a central guiding principle of their society i.e. for Islam to be very much in the public sphere. They believe that democracy and Islam are entirely compatible, yet it’s impossible to believe that non-Muslim minorities would be properly protected in explicitly Islamic States. There’s no sign of genuine modernisation or enlightenment in any Islamic country, and failing to separate the State and religion in extremist countries can never lead to democracy – only to theocracy (like Iran).
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