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For Us or Against Us?:

We receive many questions and enquiries. Two of the most persistent questions are shown below.

Dear Sirs,

I am having some trouble fully understanding your mission and views. Two questions:

1) Are you for, or against, the new world order? Why?

2) Do you view Lucifer as good or evil (Satanic)? Why? If either of my questions is inherently flawed due to a fundamental misunderstanding please educate me.

Thank you.

Responses to these and follow-up issues are provided below.

1) Are you for, or against, the new world order? Why?

If someone is opposed to a “new world order”, it implies that they are content with the current world order. Who, other than those controlling the world, would be happy with the current state of affairs? Do you believe that you are leading the sort of life to which your talents entitle you? Are you being held back because you do not have the right “name”, the right “connections”? Do you see untalented people all around you who are doing far better than you? Do you feel dissatisfied at a profound level? Are you aware that something is fundamentally wrong with the way the world is ordered? You can’t quite put your finger on it, but you know this can’t be the way things were meant to be.

The Illuminati, in relation to their secular mission, seek to disrupt the functioning of the Old World Order: the overt power structure that rules the world and holds so many in its thrall (there is also a covert power structure). A new world order is in the interests of all, bar the current rulers of the world. Everyone who is not one of the Old World Order rulers should be doing everything in their power to topple the Old World Order. So, yes, we are entirely supportive of a new world order that will sweep away the corruption of the old, criminal order.

It is absurd for people to campaign against a hypothetical new world order rather than resist the current world order. It is the present that shapes the future and it is the past that shapes the present. The Old World Order have controlled humanity for millennia and have been resisted for millennia, with the Illuminati leading the resistance. The Old World Order controlled the past, they control the present and they will control the future unless the people awake from their slumbers.

To prevent the people from waking up is one of the Old World Order’s primary missions. In the past they favoured brute coercion, but their tactics have evolved to an astonishing degree of sophistication. They almost never use crude tactics nowadays. They are masters of psychological manipulation. The most useful form of slavery is the one in which the slaves imagine they are free. The Old World Order does not need death camps or barbed wire or electrified fences or soldiers or police or cattle wagons or surveillance or spies or enforcers. People, voluntarily, don the chains of slavery and bow down to their masters. Is that not genius? If you cannot appreciate the skill of the Old World Order, you can never triumph over them.

Every four years Americans go to the polls to vote for their own enslavement. At the end of each presidential term, the great family dynasties that rule the world still rule the world. Nothing changes. Puppet politicians posture in front of the cameras, but the power structures of the Old World Order remain in place, more secure than ever.

If you want an example of how the Old World Order operates, consider this: David Cameron, the British Prime Minister, attended Eton College (the most exclusive private school in the world) then went to Oxford University, one of the world’s most elite universities, where he joined the Bullingdon Club: a secretive, elite society exclusively for extremely wealthy students (rather like Yale’s Skull and Bones). He is married to the daughter of Viscountess Astor. His close friend, the second-in-command of the Conservative Party and Britain’s Chancellor of the Exchequer, is Gideon (George) Osborne, another person who went to an elite private school, then Oxford University, where he also joined the Bullingdon Club. Osborne’s father is a baronet.

Osborne has friends like investment banker Nathaniel Rothschild (Eton, Oxford University, Bullingdon Club, son of Baron Rothschild, member of the notorious Rothschild banking dynasty). In Corfu, they had dinner on the luxury yacht of Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, one of the richest men in the world (and one of the handful of men who mysteriously took possession of huge chunks of Russian industry at almost no cost when Soviet Communism collapsed). Also in attendance was Lord Mandelson (grandson of Baron Morrison and a senior member of the former UK government, and also an Oxford man, like his close friend Tony Blair, a former prime minister. Blair went to school at Fettes College, Scotland’s version of Eton).

This is how the Old World Order operate. Well-connected, wealthy, privileged people meet on the yachts of the super-rich to carve up the world between them. All of the important decisions that so crucially affect the lives of ordinary people are taken in these secret meetings behind firmly closed doors. The changes in financial regulation that led to the catastrophic credit crunch were taken at such meetings. The Old World Order decide what is best for themselves and then carry out these policies “in the name of the people”. They don’t consult the people, they don’t care about the people, yet they expect the people to vote for them. And, remarkably, the people do.

Boris Johnson, the Mayor of London, has a familiar background: Eton, Oxford, Bullingdon Club. In the USA, the members of secret societies like Skull and Bones and Bohemian Grove carve up America. Aren’t you getting the picture? Why are these people allowed to get away with it? Who is standing up to them? You? Or are you waving your flag and voting for them? Did you vote for George W Bush (Skull and Bones), or his father (Skull and Bones)? Were either of these men talented in any way, or did they rise to the top of the nation because their name was Bush?

If you want to help the Old World Order then watch your junk TV, play your junk video games, worship your celebrities, go see your sporting gods, vote in elections, drink yourselves into a stupor, take drugs every day, buy a property you can’t afford and spend your life repaying the debt, hold down a soul-destroying job, say prayers to false gods in fake churches, shop till you drop in shopping mall temples of commercialism. The Old World Order will pat you on the head like the nice, compliant little dogs you are.

If you want a better future you must work for a new world order and do everything to resist the Old World Order. The Zeitgeist movies are a good introduction to how the Old World Order operates, the means it uses to systematically deceive humanity and maintain its power indefinitely. Democracy, like mainstream religion, is a means to bind the people to their own enslavement. The antidote to democracy is meritocracy.

Isn’t it time to face the truth? If you haven’t gone to the right schools and colleges, if you don’t have the right name and the right connections, you are almost certain to be a nobody in life. Is that what you want? If not, join the resistance. Stand up to the Old World Order.

Of course, the Illuminati is a secret society too, but no one who belongs to any of the Old World Order power structures can ever be admitted to the Illuminati. The Illuminati is a strict meritocracy and mostly consists of highly intelligent individuals (including autodidacts) who are capable of understanding the great mystery that the Illuminati have protected for millennia.

2) Do you view Lucifer as good or evil (Satanic)? Why?

The world’s main religions are entirely false. They are the creation of false prophets working for the Old World Order. They are a central means of psychological control of the masses.

The word Satan means “Adversary”. Lucifer means Light Bearer. Do these names have any connection with Evil? Do not listen to the preachers of falsehoods. Are 9/11, the Inquisition, witch burnings, extermination camps, torture, war, crusades, suicide bombings, pogroms, massacres, persecutions, the works of people who believe in a benign, peace-loving God of love? Or of those who believe in a God who is a sadistic monster who bathes in blood and glorifies cruelty, injustice, greed, horror and terror? Would any decent person worship the Allah of the 9/11 hijackers? What kind of person would expect to be rewarded by “God” for slaughtering thousands of people in a sickening bloodbath?

Do not be obsessed with labels. The names Satan and Lucifer have become so corrupted by misuse that they mean practically nothing now. The Armageddon Conspiracy pits Lucifer against Satan, and equates Satan with Allah/Jehovah/God.

Lucifer, as defined in The Armageddon Conspiracy, is the True God’s chief and most beloved angel. Satan (Allah/Jehovah/God) is the True God’s implacable enemy. The crucial issue is whether you worship the True God, or have been deceived into worshipping a false God.

So, unless we know what you mean by Satan/Lucifer, we cannot say whether we view him as good or evil. Lucifer, as we define him, holds a position of extreme honour and is most certainly on the side of good. He is the standard bearer of the forces of light against the hordes of darkness.

Similarly, the term “New World Order” is often portrayed in extremely negative terms thanks to the highly effective propaganda of the Old World Order, and may or may not mean something sinister, depending on your stance and what you’ve seen, heard and read.

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Follow-Up.

Thank you for your response. In an effort to clarify certain matters you have introduced, I have several follow-up questions. But first I believe it would be helpful to more carefully define “new world order”, as it seems there are at least 2 different definitions.

You say that “If someone is opposed to a “new world order”, it implies that they are content with the current world order.” I’m not so sure everyone would agree with that depending on how you define it…

As I’m sure you are aware, there are now many sources (proliferating by the day) that warn of an impending “new world order” wherein the not-so-insidious goal is the further consolidation of power via formation of a one world government, a one world army, and a one world bank to be controlled by the elite few in a totalitarian type state (often termed “global enslavement”) (let’s term it “NWO- 1”). However, you seem to be defining new world order very differently – i.e. as a meritocracy (let’s term it “NWO-2”). NWO-1 and NWO-2 seem to be extremely different visions. Please compare, contrast, and clarify. Are you in favor of both or just the latter? Why?

If NWO-2 is your utopia, what is the roadmap to getting there? Is NWO-1 an intermediate (or unnecessary) step? Please explain…

You say that “the term ‘New World Order’ is often portrayed in extremely negative terms thanks to the highly effective propaganda of the Old World Order.” Are you suggesting that the current negative views by many regarding NWO-1 is actually emanating from those in power, or are you again really referring to your NWO-2 here? See how confusing it is to speak of NWO without properly defining it and clearly differentiating your definition from that of others…

In your “Conspiracy Theories” section on your website you seem to be debunking many conspiracy theories as a whole. This seems at odds with your apparent promotion of the Zeitgeist movie which, as you know, presents a number of conspiracy theories. Please resolve this apparent inconsistency. Which conspiracies do you endorse? Which don’t you endorse?

Thank you.

Response.

If a uniquely powerful secret society intent on world domination has existed for thousands of years, it follows that the world we see today is the product of their handiwork. If the world we see around us is not their creation then clearly they do not have the power claimed for them, and hence there is no reason to fear them. Either a supremely potent organisation exists that makes the world dance to its tune, or it doesn’t. If it does exist, this must be its world. Not a future world, this world.

The Illuminati state that the world of today is very close to the one envisioned by those – the enemies of the Illuminati – who seek to perpetually exploit and enslave humanity. The idea that enslavement necessarily consists of chains and concentration camps is risible. A sophisticated secret society attempts to control populations through psychology rather than primitive force. Slaves are much less efficient, and much more expensive and difficult to control, than dutiful workers who toil hard in the mistaken belief that they are helping themselves. In fact, the vast majority of people who go to work every day are doing little more than making their bosses (their masters in all but name) much richer. The super rich scarcely inhabit the same world as ordinary people now.

The British invented concentration camps in the Boer War in the 19th Century. If the masters of the world thought it was in their interest to deploy concentration camps you can be sure we would already be living in them. None of the people who warn of concentration camps ever have a convincing rationale for what purpose would be served by such camps, or why the world rulers have not already gone ahead and done it if they are so powerful. What is stopping them? The concentration camp scare story is infantile; a simplistic bogeyman vision of the world. There are bogeymen, but they are urbane, ruthless, Machiavellian puppet masters in smart suits, not childish monsters in monochrome military uniforms.

There’s only one main component missing from the Old World Order’s jigsaw. It’s a piece that they once possessed but which they lost thanks to the efforts of the Illuminati in past centuries. It’s the concept of the hereditary transmission of wealth and power. Imagine America as a monarchy rather than a republic where a king replaces the president and passes on the crown to his offspring in perpetuity. The presidency has already come to resemble this state of affairs (just consider the twelve years of presidential rule by the Old World Order’s Bush family – father and son). Just think of the absurdly high regard in which someone like “Princess” Diana was held by the American people. How long before royalty and politics are once again merged as they were for most of European history? What are celebrities if not a new form of royalty? The deluded masses have, as usual, failed to see through the Old World Order’s machinations. That is entirely as the Old World Order intends.

Don’t you see? – we are not in physical concentration camps for the simple reason that we have walked into our own prison camps of the mind. Ordinary people are so brainwashed that they actually believe the Old World Order is acting in their interests and protecting them from future horrors. The horrors, if you wake up, you will see all around you right now.

Did the people enduring the nightmare of the Second World War spend all of their time fearing what a Third World War might be like, or were they entirely preoccupied with the war they were actually in?

Those who point to a future New World Order of concentration camps are admitting that they do not find the current world situation sufficiently disturbing. They are thinking about a future war rather than fighting the war they are actually in. This is the war, here and now. Those who don’t think so have already succumbed to the Old World Order’s propaganda. How many times must it be emphasised: the Old World Order are not stupid and they are not unsubtle. If you are not horrified by this world, the one you inhabit right now, it is because you have already been successfully brainwashed, and you pose no threat to the masters of the world.

Yes, the Old World Order have introduced a concept of “New World Order” that makes people fear the future. They have spread their false definition far and wide to suit their purposes. Millions of people have fallen for it. We are fighting to reclaim the concept. It’s up to intelligent people to consider what they are reading and draw the relevant conclusions. Certainly, the existence of rival definitions is a recipe for confusion, but if we introduced a brand new term, you can be sure it would soon be deliberately sabotaged by our enemies.

There is a famous TV programme that shows a one-world future government, a one-world military and a one-world economic system that has entirely dispensed with money. It is one of the most popular TV shows of all time. It’s called Star Trek. How many people would rail against the world shown in Star Trek? – a benign meritocracy where greed and want have been eliminated by technology and by intelligent policies carried out by wise, skilled leaders. Who are the losers in Star Trek? – the super rich, the monarchs, the celebrities, the powerful dynastic families, those who bow to money. In other words, the Old World Order. Do you think the Old World Order are responsible for shows like Star Trek and online films such as Zeitgeist? Think again.

“NWO1” is an invention of the Old World Order and, sadly, many well-meaning people have been suckered into believing it. “NWO2”, a meritocracy operating in the interests of all humanity, is what is politically advocated by the Illuminati. NWO1 and NWO2 have no connection at all.

The Illuminati’s “roadmap” is and always has been ferociously difficult to implement. The Illuminati are a small group fighting across the millennia against the vast power of the Old World Order. How can a resistance group, few in number, topple monarchies and dynasties? Exceptionally, when the circumstances have proved conducive, this has proved possible (the French Revolution, for example). But the Old World Order have continually refined their tactics to make challenges to their power less and less likely.

Obviously, we in the Illuminati have no intention of revealing our precise plans, but you can be sure they involve the transformation of the ways of thinking of ordinary people, breaking the brainwashing that keeps them the slaves of their masters. The Zeitgeist movies, and futuristic visions such as Star Trek, show the sort of world humanity could be advancing towards. Why are we not? The roadblock is the same one it has always been – the Old World Order, the empire of greed, hate, war, selfishness, money, division, discord, manipulation, tyranny and oppression.

We do indeed debunk conspiracy theories, for a very specific reason. The Illuminati are a meritocracy. Throughout our history, many of our most prominent members have begun their journey as skeptics, debunkers, cynics. We wish to show such people that their current attitudes and beliefs do not preclude them from working with us. Many conspiracy theories are absurd: that does not mean that they all are, but all the people with whom we would wish to work should not be credulous and willing to swallow anything. We have chosen a tactic that might be described as postmodern. It will certainly put some people off. That is precisely the intention. Intelligent people should always retain healthy doubts until such times as they are furnished with credible evidence. Anyone who thinks the Illuminati, or anyone else for that matter, are Reptilians is in need of psychiatric help. Their delusions should not be nurtured and allow to multiply. Most of the anti-Illuminati and anti-NWO hysterics should be in mental asylums for their own protection, and to safeguard the public from their madness.

As for the followers of the Old World Order, waving their flags and bowing to their masters, they are sheeple, not people. We have no need of human sheep.

The Illuminati’s political aims are one thing. Much more important is the religion of the Illuminati. Many clues have been provided over the centuries – most notably in the legends of the Holy Grail – but they have often been absorbed and twisted by the propaganda of the Old World Order.

Finally, consider this. The German philosopher Leibniz famously said that we live in the best of all possible worlds. His logic, if you believe in an all-powerful, benign creator of this world, was infallible. If it were possible for God to create a better world than this one then he would have done so because otherwise he would be perverse and malevolent – two things that God cannot be by definition. Therefore it must have been impossible for God to create a better world than this, hence this is the best of all possible worlds. Flawless. Therefore, if you believe in such a God, you must believe that this world could be no better than it is. So don’t complain.

1) This argument is precisely the sort used by the Old World Order to justify their domination of the world.

2) The Illuminati reject it entirely.

3) Leibniz was one of the greatest figures in the Illuminati’s history.

4) In order to defeat the enemy you must understand how he thinks.

5) Do you understand?

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Supplementals

1) You say, on the one hand, that hereditary transmission of wealth and power has been lost, but on the other hand you say that the U.S presidency has come to resemble this state of affairs. So which is it – has it been lost or re-established?

2) You say that “the Old World Order have introduced a concept of ‘New World Order’ that makes people fear the future. They have spread their false definition far and wide to suit their purposes.” Your answer is very confusing – are you suggesting that NWO-1 is NOT part of the power elite agenda? That would certainly contradict the Zeitgeist movie suggestion. I assume you mean something else so please clarify…For example, if you are suggesting that a one world government/army/financial system could actually be a good thing if handled properly are you also implying that you are OK with the global elite forming their NWO-1 as an intermediate to your NWO-2? Or are you suggesting that you must stop NWO-1 and implement NWO-2 yourselves without such an intermediate?

3) It seems that the “Illuminati” have been defined in several ways depending on who is speaking. Is this because there are several different groups calling themselves (or being called) “Illuminati”, or has one group infiltrated another and inherited/co-opted their name? For example, you seem to be implying that your Illuminati (i.e. Illuminati-2) are good people looking out for others. On the other hand, the Illuminati that many others speak about (i.e. Illuminati-1) refer to the global elite which control the world and look to re-enforce this control via the NWO-1. Also, where do the Illuminati depicted in Dan Brown’s Angels and Demons fit in? In other words, please clarify the multiple definitions of Illuminati and the chronology of the various groups if indeed one has infiltrated another?

4) You seem to be implying that your “good” Illuminati (i.e. illuminati-2) was responsible for the French Revolution. This is interesting because others (e.g. some conspiracy theorists) have attributed the French Revolution to the “bad” Illuminati (i.e. Illuminati-1). This is obviously completely contradictory to what you are saying – so which is it? Please explain…

5) Are you also suggesting that your Illuminati-2 was responsible not only for the French but also the American Revolution? As you know, many conspiracy theorists have attributed this event to the Freemasons. What is the relationship of your Illuminati-2 to the Freemasons? What is the relationship of Illuminati-1 to the Freemasons? Were the Freemasons initially comprised of Illuminati-2 only to be infiltrated by Illuminati-1?

6) What is your view of Albert Pike? Giuseppe Mazzini? Leo Taxil? In particular, was Albert Pike part of Illuminati-1 or Illuminati-2? What is your view of Adam Weishaupt? In particular, was Adam Weishaupt part of Illuminati-1 or Illuminati-2?

7) With respect to the current financial crisis, there seems to be a high level of urgency by many warning of the acceleration towards NWO-1. Does your Illuminati-2, presumably opposed to these efforts, plan to accelerate its counter-efforts as well, or is this recent urgency unwarranted?

Responses.

1) The Old World Order have always supported the principle of the hereditary transmission of wealth, power and privilege – the opposite of the Meritocratic Principle – and throughout history have largely succeeded in operating in this manner. The Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, a pivotal figure in the Old World Order, refers to the British people as “hers”, as though they are her property. Most people, you would imagine, would not tolerate this. And yet the reverse is true. The vast majority of British people still support a monarchy in which they are defined as subjects rather than citizens. That demonstrates the sheer power of the propaganda of the Old World Order. They can make their tyranny be perceived as something noble and desirable. Through the heroic work of the Illuminati, manifesting itself in an assortment of revolutionary movements, the tyranny of the Old World Order has been checked to some degree, sometimes spectacularly in a few instances. The Old World Order’s response consists of a two-pronged strategy: to operate a de facto hereditary principle, and to keep the people so befuddled on junk consumerism and entertainment that they won’t notice what is happening. And they have succeeded admirably. There is no contradiction between losing something and trying to re-establish it. The question, as it has been posed, reflects a certain way of thinking that sets up false binary oppositions. The specific answer, as should be obvious, is yes to both: the Old World Order’s formal hereditary principle has been largely lost, but they have established a de facto hereditary principle (i.e. largely re-established that which was lost), with the Bush Family providing the clearest example.

2) Your confusion arises from your misconceptions. NWO-1 is a fiction. As has been repeatedly stated, the Old World Order is the only power elite with which people should concern themselves. How would the alleged NWO-1 come into being if not through the efforts of the existing world power elite? – therefore NWO-1 can be viewed only as an extension of the existing ideology and policies of the Old World Order. Do people seriously imagine that there is massive conspiracy taking place right now regarding which none of the world’s current power elite have any knowledge? How absurd. The NWO-1 propaganda has brilliantly led people astray, which was of course its function. Do not resist your current masters; instead waste your time and energy worrying about a fictional future state. How many have fallen into this trap?

A typical NWO-1 diatribe goes like this: “A One World Government and one-unit monetary system, under permanent non elected hereditary oligarchists who self-select from among their numbers in the form of a feudal system as it was in the Middle Ages. In this One World entity, population will be limited by restrictions on the number of children per family, diseases, wars, famines, until 1 billion people who are useful to the ruling class, in areas which will be strictly and clearly defined, remain as the total world population. There will be no middle class, only rulers and the servants. All laws will be uniform under a legal system of world courts practicing the same unified code of laws, backed up by a One World Government police force and a One World unified military to enforce laws in all former countries where no national boundaries shall exist. The system will be on the basis of a welfare state; those who are obedient and subservient to the One World Government will be rewarded with the means to live; those who are rebellious will simply be starved to death or be declared outlaws, thus a target for anyone who wishes to kill them. Privately owned firearms or weapons of any kind will be prohibited.” (Dr John Coleman, Conspirators Hierarchy: The Story of the Committee of 300 (1992).)

We agree with a few of the points raised here but most of it is patently ridiculous. How many times must we repeat: a) this is infantile scare-mongering b) the Old World Order aren’t morons and only morons would seriously imagine that the world is in any danger of heading in the direction described. Why do people waste their time with this transparent nonsense? c) Dr Coleman and his kind are rabid, right-wing, fundamentalist Christian, anarcho-capitalist libertarians who love guns and who, in truth, are actually more terrifying than the Old World Order themselves. If you want to understand Dr Coleman and his ilk, read Ayn Rand. It is almost impossible for people to be scarier than the Old World Order and yet Dr Coleman and his sort have managed it. (And bear in mind that Ayn Rand is also greatly admired by the Old World Order.)

Regarding Zeitgeist, ask yourself this: is it possible to use a widely believed misconception to produce a positive outcome? Imagine the difficulty Zeitgeist would have if it were to attempt to argue that there is a global power elite, but that the Illuminati – the most infamous group of all thanks to the Old World Order’s propaganda – isn’t part of that elite and, indeed, is fighting against it. The message would instantly become diluted, confused and confusing – as your questions demonstrate. Much easier, don’t you think, just to run with the existing misconceptions as long as the main point is conveyed. Zeitgeist makes it vividly clear that, for millennia, the people of the world have been conspired against by a power elite. Does this not constitute an Old World Order? How can something that has been going on for millennia be referred to as “new”. We do not pretend for a moment that we can easily undo popular misconceptions. “Old World Order” is, quite simply, less catchy than “New World Order”. It sounds like an old story, whereas what people want is what is happening now, and what is coming tomorrow. They thus ignore what happened yesterday even though that controls today and tomorrow.

Yes, a one-world government/army/financial system could be a good thing if handled properly – though the difficulties are immense. There is nothing intrinsically “bad” about the concept, unless, like Dr Coleman, you despise most of your fellow human beings and want a big gun so that you can kill them. Do people fear the one world government envisaged by Star Trek? Does that resemble a horrific tyranny? What exactly do people fear so much when they automatically denounce a one-world government? If it were a one world government that was fair to everyone, was based on merit and minimal state interference, and dispensed with the power elites, who would rise up against it? (Apart from Dr Coleman and his fellow travellers who no doubt regard Captains Kirk and Picard as one-world fascists.)

NWO-1 could never be a precursor of NWO-2. NWO-2 could only come into being if the relevant political system were shown to work in an existing advanced nation, with Meritocracy replacing Democracy. Democracy is a creature of the Old World Order.

3) Yes, you have highlighted the difficulties. We have no interest in other versions/perversions of the Illuminati. It is impossible for us to control what others say about the Illuminati. Yes, the Illuminati have been infiltrated on several occasions, but never at the highest echelons. Yes, factions have been expelled that have then tried to reinvent the Illuminati in unapproved forms. And the Old World Order has always sought to malign, discredit and persecute the Illuminati. If we were to provide a precise chronology of the Illuminati, we would be aiding and abetting our enemies since they would invariably find valuable clues in any such information and be in a better position to infiltrate us. We are the Illuminati; we are not curious researchers or historians or sensationalist writers seeking to reveal the secrets of a hidden society. We are compelled to communicate in various coded ways, but there are those who understand the codes and who eventually find their way to us.

4) Indeed. Are you for or against the French Revolution? Are you a supporter of Louis XVI, Marie Antoinette and the rest of the French power elite who oppressed the French people? Do you think the British Queen is a supporter of the French Revolution? The French Revolution was one of the great moments in history when the power of the Old World Order was almost broken. Liberty, Equality, Fraternity – are you opposed to those? You have highlighted a key point. The Old World Order and their fellow travellers will say that the Illuminati’s involvement in the French Revolution illustrates some sinister influence. The only sinister thing going on in France at that time was the obscene power and arrogance of the Old World Order. When someone condemns the French Revolution, he is revealing that he is a supporter of the Old World Order and automatically showing that he is on the side of those who attack the Illuminati. “Good” and “bad” are not objective terms – their use depends on what your attitude is. If you support the Old World Order, as you seem to, you will certainly be no ally of ours and you will refer to us in terms of NWO-1. Was the American War of Independence bad and evil? The Illuminati were of course involved in that too. Who were the losers that time? – the Old World Order of the British ruling class. The tragedy is that the Old World Order have again reasserted themselves and America is full of Old World Order dynasties once more. And they find support from the likes of Dr Coleman who would no doubt despise the French Revolution and regard it as a great evil.

5) Yes, the Illuminati were heavily involved with the American Revolution. The relationship between the Freemasons and the Illuminati is highly complex. It would be fair to say that the Freemasons were once highly influenced by the Illuminati-2, to use your definition, but were infiltrated and came to be dominated by forces hostile to the Illuminati. The Illuminati now have no connection with mainstream Freemasonry and indeed Freemasonry, at his highest levels, has become the plaything of the Old World Order.

6) We would view Albert Pike on a par with Dr Coleman. Giuseppe Mazzini tried to join the Illuminati but was rejected and created a fake Illuminati organisation. In one or two instances, the real Illuminati were not opposed to Mazzini’s activities. Leo Taxil was not a member of the Illuminati but was used by the Illuminati to perform a particular task. Yes, Adam Weishaupt was an influential member of the Illuminati. The Illuminati’s mission in his time, as now, was to resist the Old World Order, monarchical governments, oppressive political systems, deceitful, Satanic religions, and the worship of material objects over the realm of the spirit.

7) All crises are potential opportunities. The Old World Order will be using the financial crisis to bankrupt business opponents and consolidate their power in ever tighter monopolies and cartels. At the end of the crisis, their wealth and power may be massively enhanced, as indeed it was in the aftermath of the Wall Street Crash and the Depression. Equally, people who are in distress are far more receptive to the voice of change in times like these, so you can be sure that the Illuminati, in many guises, are busy promoting a radical change agenda to the ordinary people of the world.

The Illuminati is a revolutionary movement that seeks to eradicate the power elite that controls the world for its own selfish ends. We advocate radical change, not the sort of “change” that gets trumpeted by American presidential candidates working within the power elite structure of Washington DC, and from whom no genuine change could ever emanate. We sometimes form temporary alliances with other groups on the basis of “our enemy’s enemy is our friend”, but we have no formal links to any other organisation.

We consider that the person who sent us these questions is not an ally of the Illuminati and is likely to be on the side that opposes us, either as a fellow traveller of the Old World Order, or as a member of an extreme anarcho-capitalist libertarian organisation that would not be amenable to the message of meritocracy. We have responded to these questions to illustrate that we are prepared to engage with the propaganda of our enemies. We have given full answers and it is up to people to reach their own conclusions regarding what we have said. Are we tyrants? Satan worshippers? Are we the proponents of the terrifying New World Order that you have heard so much about? Or are we on your side? Are we your best hope for a just future? Think for yourselves. Don’t let them brainwash you.

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Q. The current world economic crisis seems to be getting worse. Is the OWO orchestrating this (if so, to what end? they are already powerful, why do they need more power)? Is your group involved in this crisis in any way? If no, do you plan on helping us (i.e. humanity) out at some point or are we all screwed?

The OWO caused the current economic crisis, but they did not deliberately engineer it in this instance (though they did in the case of the Wall Street Crash). For the last thirty years, the agenda of the OWO has been to minimise regulation and supervision of their activities, and to prevent the state interfering in anything they do. The “market” has been deified, but the reality is that there is no such thing as free markets. They are all rigged, and run by self-interested cartels. The aim of all cartels is to enrich themselves as much as possible. The OWO control all of the main cartels, and they all act in concert to advance the aims of the OWO.

The current economic crisis was caused by uncontrolled greed. Forget any other explanation. The amount of money a small group of super rich individuals has amassed in the last thirty years is simply staggering. They claimed they were being rewarded for magnificent performance. They said they were merely taking their fair share of the profits. No one objected.

Who stopped their greed machine? No one. Who complained? No one. Which governments intervened? None. These people were lauded. In Britain, many were knighted by the Queen (a senior member of the OWO) and made peers in the “House of Lords”. In America, governments turned to these people for advice and they were treated as great celebrities and masters of the universe. But the whole thing was a sham. The profits were illusory. They were based on “blackbox” financial instruments that no one could see into, and few understood. A handful of people spoke out regarding various abuses and suspicious activities. They were ignored. All of the fake profits of the OWO are now huge debts hanging around the necks of ordinary people that it will take generations to repay. Why have the people accepted their fate so quietly, like cows standing in the queue for the abattoir?

The OWO have themselves been financially impacted by the crisis, but if their average wealth falls from 1 billion dollars to 500 million, to what extent have they really suffered? What part of their lifestyle is altered? But someone earning $50,000 dollars who loses their job has had their lifestyle 100% impacted for the worse, even though they have lost only a fraction of the losses of the OWO in monetary terms. The Old World Order will now see the current crisis as a buying opportunity, with distressed sellers being forced to yield assets to them on the cheap, as happened in the aftermath of the Wall Street Crash. Thus, in a few years the OWO will be richer and more powerful than ever.

Nietzsche said, “Success has always been the greatest liar.” He wasn’t quite right. The illusion of success is an even greater liar. We have witnessed the greatest smoke and mirrors job in human history, the supreme confidence trick. The world bought snake oil in unprecedented quantities from shameless charlatans. No one argues with those who appear successful. No one asks awkward questions. Money flows to money. A few winners take it all. Everyone else stands by and watches, and applauds. And all the while disaster unfolds.

The Illuminati had no involvement in this crisis, but we always regarded it as inevitable. When greed is unchained, a boom results, followed by inevitable bust. The severity of this crisis is a reflection of the greed unleashed on the world. How many of the super rich have been jailed for wrecking the economy? How many have had their assets seized? The truth is that the power of the Old World Order could be shattered forever right now if the people demonstrated sufficient will. But they haven’t and they won’t.

Even now, in the midst of economic mayhem, few people have got real fire in their bellies. The Old World Order have nothing to fear at the present time. We see no signs of the widespread public discontent that needs to exist for us to make any headway against the OWO.

Also, by their skilful use of the democratic process, they have put a new face in the White House, thus removing the rage that would have been evident if Bush were still in power with years left to serve. The election of Obama has been a masterstroke by the OWO. With a single act, they have defused the bomb. But whether that remains true is another matter.

It’s not a matter of “helping humanity”. Humanity must help themselves. The only thing stopping people from bringing about radical change is themselves. Deep down, they are content to be pawns of the Old World Order. That is the supreme tragedy. If they didn’t want to be pawns, they wouldn’t be. Everyone has a choice. Most people choose the easy path, the road of least resistance, the one that requires no effort. If you always look to others, you’re definitely “screwed”.

The Illuminati can attack the Old World Order only when the people are receptive. The Illuminati were able to instigate the French Revolution only because the people were already on the streets, demanding justice. No such circumstances exist now. The people are well and truly sedated.

What is the “philosophy” of the typical family?

1) To give their children the best possible chance in life.

2) To give their children, as far as possible, an advantage over the competition.

3) To keep the family safe, secure and in good health.

4) To give the family the finest things in life.

5) To resist anyone or anything that appears to harm the interests of the family.

6) To become as successful as possible, achieve the highest possible status, and enjoy the fruits of the “good life”.

7) To pretend to be supportive of other families but, in practice, to do everything to support one’s own family, regardless of whether it’s at the expense of other families.

What is the philosophy of the Old World Order? Exactly as above.

Be in no doubt – the OWO succeed because they are carrying out the actions that families everywhere endorse, where their own narrow interests are the only interests they really acknowledge, merely paying lip-service to any other interests. But anyone who follows this philosophy gets the world we have today. It’s an entirely unproductive philosophy unless you are in the OWO. And it’s also unproductive for the OWO because they put their immortal souls in extreme jeopardy because of the selfish lives they lead.

To promote family bonds – blood ties – as the supreme good results in a horrific Darwinian struggle between rival bloodlines because there is a limited supply of the “good life”, and excessive demand for it. The result is the culture of vendettas and honour killings, literal and metaphorical, and doing anything to shaft other families in order to get your own family higher up the ladder. Behind the mask of sympathy for the plight of others lies a ruthless, self serving, savage instinct. The Bush family is the one of the most powerful OWO families. They did everything in their power to ensure that George W Bush, a person of severely limited ability, became the American President. The whole world suffered as a result. This is what happens when bloodlines are favoured over merit. The current financial crisis arises from the same source.

Meritocracy is a radically different worldview. It says that merit is a far more rational, altruistic and benign criterion in human society than blood ties. But ordinary people are resistant to it. “My family right or wrong” is their mantra.

Freemasonry was intended by the Illuminati to allow the creation of enlightened meritocratic seeds all over the world that would, step-by-step, change the prevailing OWO philosophy. Instead, Freemasons soon succumbed to the same corrupt system as the OWO. They placed the interests of their fellow Freemasons – their new “family” – above those of everyone else. Before long, the OWO and Freemasonry had merged and now Freemasonry stands at the heart of the Old World Order.

The Illuminati, if they were ever in doubt, learned the scale of the challenge facing them. If their own creation – Freemasonry – could be turned against them, what chance do ordinary people have? The OWO’s message is extremely seductive to many people, even to many of those who claim to revile the OWO. That is exactly as the OWO and their puppet masters intend. That is the nature of Satan’s world.

Q. If the current financial crisis ends up unifying the world (albeit for evil OWO-related reasons), will you then grab the unified world and make it into a meritocracy somehow?)

A. If we could “grab” the world, we would have done so long ago. We are Gnostics. This is not our world. We are operating in the enemy’s territory and the enemy has all the power. For us to succeed amounts to Satan’s grip on the world being released. Many Gnostics thought this was an impossible task, but the Illuminati realised it could be done, but only by bringing about a remarkable change in humanity, which is what we strive for.

The OWO, and their puppet masters, are doing everything in their power to maintain their hold over humanity. Do you imagine for even a moment that it is easy to defeat them?

The current financial crisis is likely to consolidate the power of the OWO. Fear has not yet turned to irresistible rage amongst the people. Far too many people still buy the OWO’s propaganda. Obama represents the ability of the OWO to keep reinventing themselves and duping the people. By the end of Obama’s time in office none of the power of the OWO will have been surrendered. The reverse will be true.

Here’s our radical message. Meritocracy can only come about in a world that has turned its back on greed. Meritocracy means that harder-working, cleverer, more talented people rise to the top, and receive higher rewards than those below them, but – and here’s the crucial point – those higher rewards are never excessive. Would you vote for a society that placed caps on what the most successful people were allowed to earn, and that blocked their ability to pass on their wealth to others? The Scottish-born American Andrew Carnegie was a remarkable individual who came from humble origins to become the world’s richest man. Despite his background, he was accepted by the OWO and became one of their most powerful figures. In his latter years, he realised the errors of his ways to some extent and chose to give away all of his money in various philanthropic undertakings. “The man who dies rich dies disgraced,” he said…and never have any truer words been spoken. The Illuminati would wish to see a world in which that principle was enshrined in law. Dynastic families – the bedrock of the OWO – are created and sustained by the transmission of great wealth from privileged parents to privileged children. To stop the OWO, all that is needed is a law to prevent the transmission of excessive wealth. That wealth should be used instead to ensure that ordinary people are given the opportunity to make the most of themselves.

Yet, if people are really truthful, they will recognise that they don’t want to curb greed. They dream of being fabulously wealthy like the members of the OWO. Despite all their talk, most people actually aspire to be part of the OWO. And that is why the OWO are winning.

It is also why more and more time is spent on portraying the “NWO” or the Illuminati as aliens from planet Nibiru. People do not wish to recognise the greed within themselves – so it’s much easier to hate people if they’re not actually human…if they’re wicked alien invaders. But the horrific truth is that the OWO – the masters of this world – are simply ordinary human beings writ large. If the ordinary person could be part of the OWO, he would be. What he resents is not getting that chance. What he ought to resent is the whole institution itself. Monarchy isn’t wrong because we can’t all be monarchs, but because it is an intrinsic evil.
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